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Old 08-13-2021, 08:55 PM
Danny"TheKraken"Richardson Danny"TheKraken"Richardson is offline
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Default Tech bulletin august 2021

New tech bulletin right before the runoffs. Bigger tires for 50 lbs for the GTO.

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1. #31020 (Nathan McBride) Pontiac GTO balance of performance
In AS Spec Lines, Pontiac GTO (04-06) Restricted Prep., change weight as follows:
"275 tire:
LS1: 3250
LS2: 3300
295 tire:
LS1: 32503300
LS2: 33003350"
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Old 08-14-2021, 02:42 PM
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I seems a little late to be making changes but while we are at it give the full prep cars 10" wheels that would help seeing how the tire manufacturer specs that wheel for our tire size not asking for larger tires just wheels. I hope that our board has got enough changes to make every body even. I always thought we tried our changes before we made more. But as I said earlier the rules have changed form what they used to be. This class is really getting led down a road that witch no one is going to win. Love A S it is a class that has always been fun a full innovation now we are jus changing to change. Does anyone know what the end result be.

Please think before we change anything else

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Old 08-15-2021, 06:45 PM
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Not sure I understand this change so close to the Runoffs. In my former life as Secretary of the CRB, I was always told that such competition adjustments had to be made NLT the June Sprints. This was so that the state of all Runoffs potential cars would be in place for the 3 or 4 months before the Runoffs.

Since this change will be effective 9/1/2021, it seems to violate that "policy" at least.

Can anyone on the ASAC, CRB or BOD, please explain to all of us why this is now different? A GTO is registered for the Runoffs.

Thanks, Pam
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Old 08-16-2021, 04:39 AM
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Usually special rules apply for big teams like Fall-Line.
Has anybody seen this car in person yet? Just wondering if they built it or it's something picked up to try to get a win.
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Old 08-16-2021, 03:15 PM
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As far as I know, 1 GTO has ever been built for AS. If this is that car, it has had several owners since 2009. So yes, in the early 2010s we saw the GTO at Road America.

Pam
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Old 08-16-2021, 05:13 PM
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I have sent a letter to the BOD about this, asking their review and whether or not the unwritten policy of no competition adjustments in the Tech Bulletin after the June Sprints and prior to the Runoffs is till in place.

If you feel that this needs their attention, I suggest you do the same.

Pam
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Old 08-17-2021, 04:01 PM
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I ran against Chris Brannon's GTO for several seasons. It seems to me, since it had a 5.7 L engine (maybe wrong) that he ran several hundred pounds more than the FP cars. His car was FAST. I beat him most times because he burned the rear tires off of his car, although he had bigger wheels, etc. than we did. Can't remember the details, but a GTO with big wheels and tires and running at 3300 is going to be a killer with any good driver.
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Old 08-18-2021, 10:59 AM
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2010 RP GTO 6.0 L vs 2021 RP 6.0L RO's GTO
3530# with 275 tire no 295 tire permitted vs 3350# with 295 tire
Max wheel 18 x 8.5 vs Max wheel 17 x 9.5
No dry sump vs Dry sump permitted
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:58 AM
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Where is this posted?

2010 RP GTO 6.0 L vs 2021 RP 6.0L RO's GTO
3530# with 275 tire no 295 tire permitted vs 3350# with 295 tire
Max wheel 18 x 8.5 vs Max wheel 17 x 9.5
No dry sump vs Dry sump permitted
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Old 08-18-2021, 12:20 PM
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Chris' GTO ran at 3530 back in the day. My car is at the same HP as back then. We were running 3280 or 3250, can't remember. We are now at 3300, and the GTO has lost 230 #, as I read it. That should be a car to beat, if the driver is good.
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