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Old 05-06-2011, 10:52 PM
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Default Mustang McPerson Struts For real Racing

Ok Guys

It is finally done. We now have reasonably priced Racing struts for the Mustang. (LOW BUCK)

I have been working on this project for over 10 years.

You ask “what have you learned” (short answer) There is a reason GOOD Racing McPherson struts cost big bucks.

I took the plunge in 1997 and signed on with the #24 team of Hetherwick / McDermid. After watching Andy destroy the lap record at Grattan. With an under-damped race car.

I knew I could help with shocks and chassis tuning. And in return I made some great friends.

Also it became apparent this would be the environment to develop a racing strut.
In the toughest environment on the planet.

Our shock absorber Calibration was good from the start.
But durability was the missing piece.

As it turns-out, Heavy front engine cars with McPherson struts. Have huge lateral side loading. That will find the weak link quickly when you add sticky race tires.

That is why it is not uncommon to see guys wearing out struts in less than 10 race weekends?

It is this lateral loading that bends the strut rods dynamically during cornering.
Causing premature wear and at times damage. Like broken and bent struts.

Simply put, if you can stop this on track strut rod bending.
You will have more control over the front wheels.
And can even back off a bit, on the negative camber required to make a mustang fast.

As well as spend less time fooling around with the front struts. And more time working on other things that will make you faster.

I personally like a good value when it comes to racing parts.
And the Penske Racing struts Andy is running are exceptional parts. But cost Real Cash)

We designed them with the perfect balance of durability and performance.
And the drag racing mustang guys have discovered. That now someone mades a true racing strut for the Stang. And they are keeping the Penske Guys busy building struts.

But sadly I designed them for American Sedan. And we have few buyers>
Apparently A.S. is not ready for the high cost of the best value in struts.

I know how it goes. I have a day job to pay the bills.
And do not have Penske shocks on my race car either.

So we decided to back-up and re-think this Mustang Strut Problem for American Sedan?

How do we build a low buck strut? With most of the things that make the Penske so great, in a more cost effective way?

It must have :

Inverted (high pressure) mono-tube design. To manage the crazy lateral loading.

Good Adjustable Spring hardware to work with 2.5” race springs.

Better upper spring seat bearings. So the springs don’t try to rotate and wind-up when you turn the wheels. (This is an important item others gloss-over)
And we now have a sealed bearing that works even after a rain race!

Repairable so if it is ever damaged in a collision. It is not a throwaway item.

Re-valvable –Shock absorber calibration is everything when it comes to winning races.

So now I am custom building the Bilstein Inverted struts.
And converting them into a full race part.

Starting at $400 each.

This should fall into the budget for most Mustang racers.

And will be upgradable at any time to become re-valvable.

Or even adjustable?

I have made an investment (time and money) in the custom parts required to make this happen. And we are now ready to custom build them for anyone who needs them.

The struts arrive ready for your 2.5” springs. Dyno tested to insure the build was performed correctly.
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Old 05-06-2011, 11:05 PM
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I have included a few photos of the first production set.

Just before I shipped them to the new owner


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Old 05-07-2011, 08:49 AM
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Any struts for the 3rd gen Camaro in the Future ?

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Old 05-07-2011, 01:03 PM
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Any struts for the 3rd gen Camaro in the Future Angelo?
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Sorry I am not Angelo.

Name is Alex
Owner of T&A Shocks in Northville Mi.

Sure I can do an F-body strut.
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Old 05-07-2011, 01:09 PM
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I assume that is for S197 (coil-over) Mustangs?

Do you offer anything for earlier models, or would you simply remove the coil-over spring and run the one in the stock location?
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Old 05-07-2011, 02:48 PM
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I assume that is for S197 (coil-over) Mustangs?

Do you offer anything for earlier models, or would you simply remove the coil-over spring and run the one in the stock location?
Sure I have built quite a few.

The fox Body and the SN95 use the same strut.

And in some ways are easier than the S195. And in other was more difficult.

So unfortunately they are the same cost as the S195 (2005 and later)

More work goes into making them durable. But do not need spring seats. And sway-bar mounts.


Call me on Monday - we can talk about it

Thanks

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Old 05-07-2011, 03:02 PM
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At that price, I'm sure you'll get a lot of calls. Awesome.

My friend and business partner (Scott) just finished his SN95. The shock options he/we had for the front of his car was disconcerting. That apparently has changed.
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Old 05-09-2011, 09:54 AM
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I'm the owner of the pair of shocks pictured, at least I they look a lot like the ones Alex sent me

I've only had them on the new car for one race week and had some other issues with the car so can't really comment on their performance yet. However the material and craftsmanship are all first class and Alex was great to work with. Highly recommended!!
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:32 AM
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...I am assuming that manufacturers and drivers in AS are conforming to this rule in the ASCS, WRTO shocks:

"Springs of any origin may be used, provided they are of the same number and type as originally fitted and that they must be installed in the original location. Coil over springs and shocks are prohibited, unless fitted as original equipment."

Pam Richardson
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:04 PM
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...I am assuming that manufacturers and drivers in AS are conforming to this rule in the ASCS, WRTO shocks:

"Springs of any origin may be used, provided they are of the same number and type as originally fitted and that they must be installed in the original location. Coil over springs and shocks are prohibited, unless fitted as original equipment."

Pam Richardson




Pam

Thanks for the interest in the shock rules.

I think we all want to play by the rules.

The way I read it.

The Fox body Mustang and the SN95 Mustang. Are the Only McPherson Strut based cars that can not go coil over. As they did not have that from the factory.
(That would be 1982 to 2004 mustangs)

The S195 Mustang (2005 and up) has the factory spring mounted on the strut

Then the Gen 3 F-body (Chevy Camaro and Firebird). Have the springs mounted on the strut. As do the New Late Model Camaro Any one building one Yet?

That would be a cool full prep car?


Performance wise all 3 versions of the Mustang seem evenly matched.

But the sleeper is the Gen 4 F-body. You can run a top of the line (non-strut based) racing damper. If you can afford it .
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