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Old 01-23-2019, 04:31 PM
Danny"TheKid"Richardson Danny"TheKid"Richardson is offline
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Default RP Face Lift?

Looks like RP is getting a bunch of upgrades. Good time to have a 4th Gen RP Camaro.

Recommended Rule Changes by the CRB for 2019:

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1. #25673 (January 2019 Fastrack - Drew Cattell) Cost Savings - Allow OEM 5 Lug
Wheel Bearings - RP CTS-V
Thank you for your letter. Effective 1/1/19:
Add to the Notes for the Cadillac CTS-V (04-07) : Alternate OEM/replacement part 5-lug
wheel bearing
allowed. SKF bearing p/n BR930081 (or equivalent) rear bearing, used on front and rear
positions. Hub pilot may be machined down (up to 3mm) to allow fitment of Camaro SS
brake rotors 92245928 (front, 13.9" diameter) and 92245929 (rear,14.3" diameter).
Stock CTS-V calipers to be retained.

2. #26011 (January 2019 Fastrack - Club Racing Board) Changes for Listed Restricted
Preparation Cars
These items are the portions of 24929 and 24930 that remain approved by the BOD in
their August meeting.
Add to the specification lines Notes for the Chevrolet/Ponitac Camaro and Firebird (93-
97) and (98-02) Restricted Prep. Cars: May use 9.1.6.D.1.l.1. Flywheel/Clutch.
Add to the Notes for the Restricted Prep. Ford Mustang Cobra and GT (96-98) 4.6L
V8: May use Trick Flow Engine Kit TFS-K519-390-375. May use 9.1.6.D.1.l.1.
Flywheel/Clutch and 9.1.6.D.3.a.1.
Add to the Notes for the Restricted Prep. Ford Mustang Cobra (99-02) 4.6L V8: May use
Trick Flow Engine Kit TFS-K519-390-375. May use 9.1.6.D.1.l.1. Flywheel/Clutch and
9.1.6.D.3.a.1.
Add to the Notes for the Restricted Prep. Ford Mustang GT (99-04) 4.6L V8: May use
Trick Flow Engine Kit TFS-K519-390-375. May use 9.1.6.D.1.l.1. Flywheel/Clutch and
9.1.6.D.3.a.1
Add to the Notes for the Restricted Prep. Ford Mustang Mach 1 (03-04) 4.6L V8: May
use Trick Flow Engine Kit TFS-K519-390-375. May use 9.1.6.D.1.l.1. Flywheel/Clutch
and 9.1.6.D.3.a.1.
Add to the Notes for the Restricted Prep. Ford Mustang Coupe GT (05-10) 4.6L V8: May
use Trick Flow Engine Kit TFS-K519-390-375. May use 9.1.6.D.1.l.1. Flywheel/Clutch
and 9.1.6.D.3.a.1.
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Old 01-24-2019, 01:59 PM
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Seems like someone owns stock in the RP 4th gen world. Good thing my Foxbody is so heavy really love the direction things are going lately.... canít wait to race an SMG car in the rain, that abs + big tires + big brakes + downforce + lack of torque from the 4.6 boat anchor should really make things competitive HAHAHAHA. Iím all for more cars but come on at least make them unplug the abs. And the 4th gen was already a podium finisher at the runoffs why not make it faster?
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:14 PM
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Hot cam

https://sdparts.com/i-18726880-chevr...t-cam-kit.html

Do rp cars need 40+ more horsepower?

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both for and against, to the Club Racing Board. It is the BoDís policy to withhold voting on a rules change
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encouraged. Please send your comments via the form at www.clubracingboard.com.
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1. #25734 (Matt Jensen) Request LS1 RP Power Adder
In AS, Chevrolet/Pontiac Camaro & Firebird (98-02) Restricted Prep. 5.7, add to the notes as follows:
"GM Performance Parts camshaft Kit P/N-19355738 is permitted. May use flywheel/clutch as specified in
the Full Prep American Sedan rules."
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:08 PM
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Default Upgrades for 4th Gen

Be sure to check out the final Minutes. There's a little sentence in red at the top that makes all the changes (including the trans, flywheel and clutch as well as the cam kit) effective 3/1/19.

https://www.scca.com/pages/fastrack-news
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:29 PM
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I'm packing my bags.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:26 PM
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We are destined for vintage. They don't want old Mustangs around anymore.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:03 PM
Richard Pryor Richard Pryor is offline
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Default I didn't ask for it

But I'll take it.

Hot cam, full race clutch and flywheel, and Tremec transmission for my 4th Gen Camaro RP...wow, Christmas came late.

BUT....I think this is the wrong way to go for A Sedan. Just on the face of it the level of performance has been moved up to Spec Mustang equality...but not for all cars. The Fox Mustangs seem left in the "we don't really want you anymore..thanks for help building the class" category...as do the ex-T2 Mustangs from the last 8 years. In my mind all the new direction does is increase costs.

It would make more sense to me to keep the rules the way they are and require SMG to meet current AS prep/performance levels, i.e., drop the ABS, wing, splitter, wheels, tires, etc and meet AS FP rules for those items and a few more. Let them run in AS for a year or two then give them allowances, if needed.

Having a RP 1999 Camaro I've just gotten a chance to add around 30 rwhp or more with proper tuning. $600 for the cam and spring kit, $0 for easy do-it-yourself installation, $500 for retune and boom...might as well get a 15# flywheel and hot clutch setup at the same time...$1400 plus free labor...so for under $2500 I've got a car that a top driver could run with the SMG cars in the NorPac Division and have a shot at the Runoffs. So here we go on rules creep instead of rules stability. Jeez. I'm glad I'm just going to run out there this year to have fun and won't be spending the $$$...haha, it wouldn't do me any good anyway..probably actually make it harder for me to drive with the extra power and torque.

But maybe it'd be fun to see what Aaron Bailey could do in the car at the July Hoosier Super Tour race at Laguna Seca...hmmm...if I sold that copy of Batman #11 it'd be the same as free parts.

To be continued.

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Old 01-24-2019, 09:15 PM
Richard Pryor Richard Pryor is offline
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Default And.....

now that I've been thinking about it...the cam, etc for 4th gen RP cars isn't enough. With that cam it's imperative that the CRB also allow larger fuel injectors (44# instead of 28# would be nice), headers instead of the restrictive stock exhaust manifolds..and while we're at it a larger TB and maybe a FAST intake manifold...yeah, that's the balance we need now.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:15 PM
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Default I've seen this movie before....

It's only been said about 1,000 times, but this is what started the slide to where we are today. Early on, AS cars were basically "IT/GT". Add a part here and a part there, and voila, we have the 1970 Trans Am! (but for more money).

Adding a cam to the RP cars is only going to decrease reliability, and then you'll be on the merry go round for better parts that can deal with extra power. Good luck.
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Old 01-24-2019, 10:14 PM
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The RP Camaro already was competitive. It's been on the podium at Runoffs several recent years. This is just picking and choosing which cars they want to win. Can I start writing letters to get more for my fox Mustang? I can but won't get it because I'm not on a committee or rules board. System is broken.
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