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socalta 02-19-2006 04:56 PM

now what do I do ...
 
well the unthinkable happened. I was trying to get that damn bolt/pin out of the rear dif so I could slide the pin out to get the shafts out so I could put in new rear caliper mounting plates. Well, I can't get it out thanks to the bolt head stripping. I tried to tack weld a nut over the existing nut but thats not working too well right now.

Any idea how to best get it out or how I might proceed?

Thanks,

Jorge

jkopp 02-19-2006 05:24 PM

Heat the diff up around the bolt a little? Those little bolts can cause many headaches. I've even had to go so far as to cut the spider pin out with a torch. Good luck!

-Kopp

socalta 02-19-2006 09:11 PM

I just want to be sure I am on the same page as you.
there is only one bolt that we are talking about and it runs parallel with the axle. I remembered you said 5/16 head an only one in there matched it but just to be sure.

Also did you head it up with an OA torch or it doesnt need that much heat. I have a torch I use on copper as well as an OA torch.

BMiller 02-19-2006 09:55 PM

Heating the carrier housing (not the bolt) should improve your situation, it will ixpand the female threads (but you still have to grab the bolt head somehow). I know for a fact the FoMoCo 8.8 uses a metric bolt (8mm I recall - too damn small in any event). Also use an 8-point wrench and not a 12 point (moot point now that the head is stripped). Best of luck - let us know how things turn out.

jkopp 02-19-2006 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalta
I just want to be sure I am on the same page as you.
there is only one bolt that we are talking about and it runs parallel with the axle. I remembered you said 5/16 head an only one in there matched it but just to be sure.

Also did you head it up with an OA torch or it doesnt need that much heat. I have a torch I use on copper as well as an OA torch.

I've never actually had this exact problem Jorge. I've had that pin end of the bolt break off a few times and once I could not get it out no matter what. That is the time I had to cut the spider pin. I'd probably just try a small propane torch like you would use to do plumbing work with like the one you mentioned.

Follow Bill's advice (except I think he meant 6-point not 8- ;) ) and hope you're lucky.

BMiller 02-20-2006 08:12 AM

Yes Kopp - I meant 6 point. It was getting late and I was tired of watching cars go flat out w/o lifting and around in a circle 200+ times....

socalta 02-20-2006 05:55 PM

thanks for the help guys. That damn thing is not coming out. I have tried a few times welding another nut on top of it but I cant get enough penetration. All I wanted to do was get those new caliper brakets on and change the wheel bearings and now .. nothing....

Any suggestion that may have been overlooked?

Can I just pull out the center section by removing the four bolts and take it some place?
Maybe now is a good time to have the rear end worked on....

jkopp 02-20-2006 10:55 PM

Can't pull the center section without removing the axles. Can't remove the axles without pulling the spider pin. Can't remove the spider pin without removing the lock bolt. You're in a tough spot. Maybe try to break it loose with a chisel and hammer? I take it the heat trick didn't help? I don't have much else to offer Jorge. You're in a tough spot.

-Kopp

FoxMustang37 02-20-2006 11:19 PM

There are some new sockets out made by, I believe Snap On, that have "teeth" in them made for the exact problem you are having... I have not personally seen them but a buddy of mine was telling me about them last week. He said the "tool guy" that gave him the demonstration took out a bolt that had the head rounded into almost a perfect circle...

Is the rear end out of the car? If not, maybe try taking the entire rear out of it so you can get a good angle to weld the nut onto head.

I have run into the same problem before with an engine mount bolt. I took a grinder and ground the bolt head smaller then drilled out a nut and drove it onto the head. I then welded it to the bolt as you described. The heat from the welder broke loose the factory thread locker.

Mark Allen 02-21-2006 03:00 AM

Thread Locker
 
As I recall, that pin does have factory thread locker on it, that combined with a very small bolt head, combined with a 12 pt wrench is disaster in the making.

I'd recommend locking onto the bolt head tightly with a pair of vise grips. Then before you try to turn it, heat the hell out of the carrier in that area with an oxy aceteline torch. I don't think propane will do anything, the iron is too thick and the oil impregnation makes it hard to get alot of heat into it. Mapp gas might work but I recommend OxAc. Get it glowing before you try to turn the bolt.

The suggestion a couple of lines above about the special sockets is a good one. The socket on the inside is like a cone with teeth, it does need some downward force to work though.

Mark


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